Posted by: Yvonne | January 4, 2012

John Piper & Beth Moore together @ Passion 2012

I’ve had a bit of time lately now that the hustle & bustle of the ‘season’ has passed, so I began visiting some of my favorite blogs.   Come to find out Satan did NOT take time off for the ‘holy day’!   Whoda thunk it?

Devil went down to Georgia…

What do John Piper and Beth Moore have in common?





  1. Pretty sad, isn’t it?

    • Yes, indeed, Glenn!

  2. In session 5,( which will be live-streamed until tomorrow, Thursday, 1-5-12), John Piper began to speak at 1 hour and 15 minutes in. On the huge screens behind him were these words, “Jesus, speak to me.” John read the entire chapter of Ephesians 6. Then, instead of expounding on it like one would have usually expected from him, he said this: “Let’s be quiet and ask the Lord to speak.” He bowed his head, and for a full minute, he and the entire crowd in the stadium grew completely silent. Then afterward, he prayed verbatim the prayer of Ephesians 3:14-21 and some other verses for the students that were there and that they would be able to get along with and to forgive parents. That was it, all of 10 minutes on stage. (I don’t know about the other sessions.)

    He was followed by some come-down, mellow worship music (as opposed to the excitment-building rock-style songs which dominated the earlier part of the session). But, no preaching or exposition of the word by John Piper. The host then came on and closed the session by asking how many in the audience “heard the voice of God speak specifically, clearly, directly, and personally to you today?” The crowd cheered out their acknowledgement of the mystical experience they received while John led them into the meditative state. They raised their hands to indicate they received a direct word and were told to look about the room and see how many had also received and how that means they are worth so much to God, the Creator, to have him speak to them.

    This whole show has only tatters of Christianity left about it. John has become as mystical as Beth Moore. He left those kids thinking that being taught the apostle’s doctrine was not as valuable as sitting in silence to let God speak to them inwardly and personally in a supposed voice. According to Hebrews 1:1, In these last days, God has spoken unto us by His Son. But his eyewitnesses, the apostles, through whose word only we have fellowship with the Father and the Son, are being set aside in favor of Desert Father mysticism repackaged today for broad consumption. Sad. Hope you come back to your senses someday, John.


    • Wow, what a sad description! Pure feel-good nonsense.

    • Wow, Stan! Thanks for sharing this information!

      One side of me is shocked; the other side of me isn’t. However, after the Rick Warren debacle, what should we expect from Piper?

      “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears…” 2 Tim. 2:3

  3. In session 5, all of the people on stage read a chapter or part of one from Ephesians, and four to five times paused to “be still” and let Jesus speak to them and the audience after the reading. It wasn’t just John Piper who did this. I felt like I was witnessing contemplative spirituality plain and simple. The crowd probably had no idea what was going on, but you can bet that some will copy that type of praying.

    • Thank you, Vickie, for sharing this information.

      I can’t help but wonder if we seeing the falling away Paul speaks of in 2 Thess. 2:3? Is God sending the ‘strong delusion, that they should believe the lie…”?

      Come Lord Jesus!

    • I scrolled through session 5 looking for Piper to see what he was going to do on stage and found him just reading then leading them into the contemplative state. Considering the depth of Ephesians, you have to wonder why they would pick that book simply to read and not to expound. That means they were using the Scriptures as either cover for their real agenda of leading the audience (I avoid the term congregation deliberately) into this openness to voices or to justify what followed. If voices start speaking to these young folks, they will become disturbed. It happens a lot with this form of “prayer.” People begin exhibiting wacky behavior and adherence to strange doctrines such as Universalism.


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