Posted by: judy | March 4, 2011

Jesus Answers Rob Bell’s Questions

First watch the trailer for Rob Bell’s new book, Love Wins.

Over at MisterRichardson’s      Jesus answers Rob Bell’s Questions.

Additional information on Rob Bell’s Universalism at Apprising Ministries {note that Ken Silva wrote this is 2008}.

Wondering how all those youth & college ministers are feeling about their Rob Bell videos and studies these days?????   Nooma videos all over our daughter’s college.

Advertisements

Responses

  1. College kids fit well the verse in Eph. 4: “we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;”

  2. Hi Stan, thank you for bringing our attention to Eph 4. Our own experience with our daughter’s Christian College has made us realize how well sharpened discerning skills must be. There is no resting and assuming all is well at a “Christian” college. What to do when your youth “minister” chooses Nooma Videos for the summer Sunday school summer curriculum. Parents talked with both the Pastor and the youth minister — raising concerns over Rob Bells’s false teachings. Their minds were completely closed to the possiblity of false teaching. Several families left this church during the next couple of years.

    The short response, parents must teach their children that “trickery of men” might very well be invited into their own church or Christian college. It is biblical to check every word from every teacher no matter who it is. Acts 17:11.

  3. i love how no one has read the book, yet is frightened by it and getting all in a tizzy. seems like heaven just won’t be heaven unless the majority of people are in hell.

    • No fear, Friend.

      Most discerning Christians are quite certain that Rob Bell is a heretic. He revealed his true colors years ago. We simply continue to warn and expose (Ephesian 5:11).

      I would strongly suggest you step back and re-evaluate Bell’s teachings in light of Scripture.

    • Ah, no fear at all of Rob Bell or his heretical teachings — just a waste of time to read/listen to him. He isn’t really producing anything new — same stuff. Thankfully, his ego exposes the lies a little clearer.

      However, I do care for the souls he is influencing as Scripture clearly implores Christians to identify and expel false teachers within the Church.

      My biggest question concerning Rob Bell — Was he ever saved? Is this just a simple misunderstanding of Scripture or is there a clear intent to deceive? Doesn’t keep me awake at night but it is of interest to understand if one has “saving faith” (Romans 1:16; 6: 17; 10:9, 14 – 17; 15:13) how are they able to teach another gospel or another Jesus?

  4. “Scripture clearly implores Christians to identify and expel false teachers within the Church”

    -as stated before, Jesus didn’t teach this. plus the light of Scripture shows God saving all of creation for all existence is God’s and everything in it. If it is God’s will, everything and everyone will be saved and it’s not up to you, it’s up to God. Jesus calls us to serve not to judge. those who loved to judge would be the Pharisees who misjudged Jesus. Bell gets people fired up for the Lord and brings people to Him. that’s good fruit, even if it’s not your brand of Christianity or your binary Jesus.

    • Wow! And you are a pastor?

      It would seem that both you and Bell are teaching a false Christ. May the Lord have mercy on your soul!

      • yeah, which is why i’m confused at the links you put up… they don’t mean what you think they mean.

        • Would you like to offer an example to support your claim?

    • Zero1ghost, What is Jesus’ lesson in Matthew 13:3-23, Mark 4:2-20, Luke 8:4-15?

      • that it’s what God does not about what we do (HE is the sower), that people think they have certainty of God but they do not (10-13), and that the cares of the world corrupt those within the community (19) which is the leaven of the Pharisees and of Herod (Matthew 16:11-12). PLUS this makes me call to mind Luke 6:26. you seem to speak well of many and ill of many. i am inclined then to follow those you speak ill of.

        • Yes, you do. By your own admission you are unable to tolerate sound doctrine along with repeated mishandling of the Word of God. In your post “Thinking about Eschatology” Have you ‘listened’ to what you wrote??? It is fascinating. You simply took Scripture from the lectionary because for some odd reason you subscribe to following the common lectionary? and since you openly question if you even have an Eschatology you just apply the designated Scriptures for that week to fit something YOU are more comfortable with delivering — and this is not idolatry??

          • what sound doctrine particularly? what do you think those scriptures meant? you need to be more specific when calling me out. and no, i didn’t feel comfortable delivering those sermons in the least, but after a careful exegesis of the text that is what i found. i simply don’t believe in the millennialism and it’s view of time.

    • On the contrary, Zero1ghost — Jesus did provide information to ‘judge’ false teachers from good teachers / good fruit from bad fruit — you, yourself, are attempting to use this piece of Scripture to ‘judge’ Rob Bell. (Matthew 7: 15 – 20) Again, Jesus warns us in Matthew 7:21-23. Jesus explicitly instructs (and warns) disciples in Matthew 10. Jesus gives believers the means in Scripture to discern truth from error.

      • seems like Rob Bell is saying “Love Wins.” We don’t have any evidence other than people’s opinion who haven’t read the book. no one has.

        do we not believe the nicene creed which states “We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
        We look for the resurrection of the dead,
        and the life of the world to come. Amen.”

        the forgiveness of sins! have not all sinned a fallen short of the glory of God?

        • zero1ghost,

          You rightly ask, “have not all sinned a fallen short of the glory of God?”.

          Yes. We have all sinned and are doomed to hell; a real place of everlasting separation from God. Those who are not saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ will spend eternity there despite what Rob Bell seems to imply in his promotion video for his book.

          Repent now, Friend, and call on the Lord for forgiveness! You have been seriously deceived as is evidenced by your comments here and your blog posts.

          • so you don’t believe in the forgiveness of sins. your atonement is extremely limited. how sad.

            • How do you come up with that conclusion? It is like you want to misunderstand! It is obvious that you are blinded and do not desire truth. That, Friend, is truly sad, indeed.

              • evidence from one sentence: “Those who are not saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ… ”

                or is it the faith OF Christ that saves. the greek is notoriously ambiguous.

                “what Rob Bell seems to imply in his promotion video for his book.”

                key word here is seems. you have no idea what his full message is and have already judged him. the idea that God saves all people through Jesus’ actions on the cross is what all of Christianity is built upon. it is why the gospels were written and why they are called “Good News.” it is why “God so loved the world that he sent his only Son…” the sticking point is “whoever believes in him.” as there are so many denominations out there and ways of believing. which way is right? i would state that God being infinite and His Kingdom being so beyond what we know (which is why Jesus only spoke of it through parables and analogies) that to reach His children and all our needs these various denominations are part of His plan. yet all are part of “one holy, universal church.” this is truth. this is the universal saving power of Jesus Christ who will come again to judge the living and the dead, and it is him and him alone who will judge. the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31–46) will be separated, but the sheep don’t know they are sheep, and the goats don’t know they’re goats.. only he decides. so politely leave it up to him.

  5. Zero1ghost,

    I originally ‘unapproved’ your comment because I am convinced that you are deceived and did not desire to engage you any further. However, I changed my mind and decided to ‘approve’ it in light of the fact that this blog’s main focus is exposing error and deception in the visible church today and your latest comment is a perfect example of that error and deception.

    At your blog on your ‘about’ page, you claim to be a pastor in the United Church of Christ. This fact makes your comments even more egregious simply because you undoubtedly are preaching and teaching your false Christ to your flock.

    Here’s why I say that:

    You say, “the idea that God saves all people through Jesus’ actions on the cross is what all of Christianity is built upon. It is why the gospels were written and why they are called “Good News””.

    This is Universalism which is a false teaching and makes Jesus a liar.

    In Mark 9, Jesus warns those who “causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble…It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”

    Sounds like some will go to hell; remember the rich man of Luke 16? He was “in torments in Hades.” What about Revelation 20, which says, “And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.”? Hell is a real place, zero1ghost, and there it will not be empty, as Bell apparently is promoting.

    You say, “the sheep and the goats (Matthew 25:31-46) will be separated, but the sheep don’t know they are sheep, and the goats don’t know they’re goats. Only he decides. So politely leave it up to him.” The passage in Matthew does not declare that the sheep are unaware that they belong to Jesus, as you claim.

    You make Jesus Christ a liar; you present another Jesus—a false Christ.

    In John 10, Jesus declares, “I am the good shepherd; and I know my sheep, and am known by my own. “ Jesus also declares that ‘he [Jesus] brings out his own sheep, he [Jesus] goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice.” Jesus clearly shows that His sheep know Him; know they are His and follow Him.

    What’s even more interesting in this passage is that Jesus speaks of hirelings—thieves who come to steal, kill and destroy. These hirelings, He continues, do not care about the sheep and flee when the wolves show up.

    Zero1ghost—I believe you are one of those hirelings and are not defending your flock from the wolves like Rob Bell. Your teaching of a false Christ will lead your flock to death and destruction. Again, I call you to repentance.

    While I have taken time out of my day to write this response to you, I understand that I cannot convict you of these truths that are taught in God’s Word. Only the Holy Spirit of God can change your heart and I pray that you will cry out to Him to open your eyes to His Truth.

  6. Comments are closed for this post.


Categories

%d bloggers like this: